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Well, first off…

R.I.P. Michael Joseph Jackson
29/08/1958 – 25/06/2009

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This morning I hopped into John’s car, where he had his MP3 player input for the car stereo and told me to hook up my iPod. So I proceeded to do so, and put on some music but then Thashan said “Put on some Michael Jackson, he’s dead.” Being the joker I know he is and combined with the fact that I hadn’t seen the TV or heard the radio before I’d left, I didn’t believe him, but then he said “He died of a heart attack this morning”. Then I realised he was serious, and John confirmed that, and I just sat there in shock for a moment. I’ve been a fan of his music and respected him as the King Of Pop that he is, and I was actually very saddened to hear that he had passed away. We then listened to his music for the rest of the car trip, and then when we arrived at Parramatta Westfield his music was playing in quite a few stores; Foot Locker was playing a concert of his on their screens. We went to JB HI-FI for a while after the movie, and there was not a single Michael Jackson album left in the store. On the bus home, I watched part of his concert (“Billie Jean” at his 30th Anniversary Concert in 2001) on my iPod and then listened to more of his music. At least his music still lives on. Then I came home and saw all the reports on the news. Speaking of which, everyone needs to watch the tribute show tonight at 10pm on Channel Ten.

Anyway, so the reason I went to Parramatta today was to watch Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.

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Basically, the movie was just humungous robots fighting and Megan Fox. It really catered for fans of Megan Fox, and so I think all of us there (James, Bryan, Deva, John, Bobby, Doug, Thashan, Kris and I) weren’t disappointed with that aspect. There were some very unnecessary scenes with Megan Fox in them, but they were good. In terms of plot, there wasn’t really much to it, but it’s not like anyone was really expecting an awesome storyline anyway. In my opinion there was just a bit too much action. It was a two and a half hour film, and pretty much the last one and a half of those hours was guns and explosions and massive metal robots battling it out. Overall, it was still a good movie and I did enjoy it. Oh, also, Isabel Lucas’ part in the movie is wack. And, I wore my Transformers belt to watch the movie.

Another part of today was playing with James’ camera, a Nikon D60 DSLR. To say the least , it was mad fun, and it’s made me want a camera even more now. I spent a lot of time messing around and taking pictures of everyone and random things and it was so much fun. Also, we had a look at the Nikon D5000 in some stores, and seeing it in real life also added to my increased want for one. Anyway, there’s not really much else to say about that, so I’ll let the pictures speak for thimselves. These were all taken by me on James’ camera. For more photos and James’ own photography, kindly direct yourselves to his blog, entitled re:discover. He’s got some really good stuff there and I’m jealous.

Most of the following photos have been touched up a little. The ones with people in them are mainly just white balance/contrast/lighting fixes, but most are true to the original. The ones that don’t include people (shoes, lights) have had a little more done to them as I’m sure you’ll notice.

These first few were taken when we first arrived at the station, waiting for other people to arrive.

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Deva’s reaction to Michael Jackson’s death:

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The next few were taken while eating at the food court before the movie.

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Mmm, Maccas. It’s okay, I didn’t eat before the movie so there were no grubby hands on the camera.

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No points for guessing the title of tonight’s blog.

PS. Leeanne has a blog! Time-Turning @ WordPress.



the unwinding cable car

I wasn’t actually going to blog tonight; I thought I’d have a rest after exams and blog tomorrow after I’d watched Transformers and played with James’ camera, but I just watched Crash, and I just have to blog about it.

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Yes, Crash was that film that in 2004 won all those Oscars (Best Picture, Best Original Screenplay, Best Editing) at the 2005 Academy Awards, and I’d say they won them all rightfully so. I loved it. The storyline was complex yet it’s executed in such a way that you’re able to keep track of every character and their views and stories.

The film is based solely around the issue of racial tensions. There are four or five subplots, and in each there are always conflicts between races; the main races represented are Whites, African-Americans, Asians, Hispanics and Persians. It would take me all night to explain each subplot, but all of these come together in the last thirty minutes or so of the film where there’s a massive prolonged catharsis that just keeps on hitting you with surprises. In the end all the loose ends are tied up and each individual character gains a sense of inner peace, and this is usually some sort of an understanding for the race they were previously against as well as an understanding of themselves. Just, you’re going to have to watch it if you haven’t already. I very highly recommend it. But if you’re one of those people  that are easily affected emotionally by movies, be warned. This film is packed with emotion and I’d be surprised at anyone that did not tear up even a little throughout the whole movie. I think it’s the emotional side of movies that gets me going (please don’t judge me). I watched Good Will Hunting a while back and it really struck me. There’s another great film to watch. As soon it finished I decided that it was one of the best films I had ever watched. Robin Williams and Matt Damon, how can you go wrong? Oh, and speaking of actors and actresses, Crash also has a somewhat stellar cast. Don Cheadle, Matt Dillon, Thandie Newton, Sandra Bullock, Brendan Fraser, Terrence Howard and even Ludacris plays a key role. I noticed that a lot of these actors seem to be playing their usual roles in this movie. Thandie Newton is an angry wife (as in The Pursuit Of Happyness) and Matt Dillon is a (quote) racist prick, as in a lot of his movies. Although Don Cheadle is quite a bit more serious than he was in Ocean’s Thirteen (Basher, the British explosives guy).

If you were dumbstruck while reading the last half of the previous paragraph, don’t worry. That was just my ramblings since I watched many, many movies last holidays.

Well, exams were over for me today. I’m not going to talk about any of them, because I hate that, but I’m very glad they’re over for now. For the first time in three weeks I have the freedom to do anything I like without feeling guilty about it. And yes I know we have an English Extension I speech, but that can wait until the weekend.

I spoke about my want for a Nikon D5000 in my last blog, and said that I was hoping to purchase is before next Tuesday to take advantage of the offer at JB HI-FI. Well, it turns out I won’t be getting it before then for many reasons that don’t involve me. In two weeks time I’m going to be home alone for a week or so (hopefully I can survive!). My brother has a school trip to Sabah, Malaysia and my parents are going to China for ten days for their wedding anniversary. Also, our hot water tank needs to be repaired, and so this is where all the family’s money is going, rather than to my camera. I offered to use the money in my bank account, but they wouldn’t allow that either, so now I have to wait until my birthday to get it (early August), which I’m totally fine with since it’s pretty soon. Also, the issue of price isn’t an issue anymore, since John’s sister works at Harvey Norman and can get me an even cheaper price than the JB HI-FI price, and it’s without a deadline (thanks, John!).

Anyway, that is all tonight. Expect another blog tomorrow night where I will review Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen and document my experiences with James’ camera, both of which I am eagerly looking forward to right now.

PS. The title of this blog was chosen because, well, I figured that if a cable car was unwinding, then eventually it would… Yeah I think you know. But where are my last two blog titles from?



hand built by robots
June 23, 2009, 12:08 am
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It’s interesting how everyone is blogging tonight. So I thought I would, too.

This blog will be very short, and based on one topic only:

The Nikon D5000 DSLR Camera. I want one.

I blame James for spreading the DSLR fever to me.

The past few days, in between studying, I’ve been looking up reviews and things like that all about DSLRs, trying to pick one to purchase. A little while back my dad mentioned that he wanted to get a DSLR for himself sometime this year, so I thought I would do some research to nudge him a bit, because if he got one, for all intents and purposes it would be mine. But this has now turned into an obsession. I really, really want one. And after some extensive research, the Nikon D5000 is the one I have settled on. Props to James for pointing me in the right direction (4 Steps to Pick an SLR is a great site to get started). I really hope my parents let me get it before the offer at JB HI-FI is over (it’s RRP $1997 for the twin lens kit but JB Hi-FI is selling it for $1793 for a limited time, and Nikon also has a $200 cashback right now, bringing it down to a cool $1573). They have said that I will get it eventually, but I hope they take advantage of this deal because I don’t like the feeling of spending extra money when I’ve already seen it so cheap.

Anyway, that is all. Good luck to everyone for your exams in the coming days.

Now excuse me while I stare at the following images for a while.

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janet
June 22, 2009, 12:00 am
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Happy 17th Birthday, Janet. (:

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the feel good drag

This will be a fairly short blog, since it’s late (actually it’s a lot earlier compared to when I usually blog) and I have some things to do (Edit: crap, I knew it wouldn’t be short). I need to blog because it just kind of takes my mind off other things during the time I write it, and it’s a nice break at the end of a day. Also, I love the feedback that all of you give me in the comments after I blog; it makes it feel that much more satisfying. However, I’ll probably end up writing heaps because I kind of get into a flow once I start writing.

Firstly, there are a few things that need to be mentioned.

The first: UAI –> ATAR. I don’t really want to say anymore because it’s been well-discussed already, and after hearing all the information it doesn’t bother me at all.

The second: ANBERLIN! Thanks to Joseph, I found out that Anberlin are playing in Sydney on August 28 this year, at the UNSW Roundhouse. Conveniently, this is a week after our Trials end. I bought tickets last night, so I’m very excited about it! I love how it’s going to be in a small venue, since the atmosphere is better. I’ll even be able to drive myself to the venue by then. Actually, I’ve never been to a concert in a small venue, but that’s what I hear. I’ve been to Red Hot Chili Peppers, which was at Acer Arena, and that was cool since we were relatively close but with seats. And of course there was Jack Johnson at Centennial Park. That one tops any other performance I’ve ever been to by far. We (Harry, Laura and I) sat outside the gates for about six hours so that we would be first in line when they opened, and it paid off, since we were directly in front of the stage, literally as close as you can get (we were leaning on the front barrier), with tens of thousands of people behind us, the furthest ones more than one hundred metres back. Ah, that was an awesome day. Here are some photos from that day (15 March 2008):

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While writing this, Kanye West’s “RoboCop” is playing. Right now Kanye is one of my favourite artists- I was introduced to him by James a while back when his newest album 808s & Heartbreak was released. His music is very different to what I normally listen to, which is a mixture of alternative rock, indie-style bands and acoustic guitar stuff. Although, I’ve noticed recently that my music taste has really been widening. Some of the albums that I’ve downloaded recently are: Jamiroquai’s A Funk Odyssey (jazz/funk/disco), LP3’s Ratatat (electronica) and Empire Of The Sun’s Walking On A Dream (electronica). These three are all a big change from my regular listening, and it seems that I’ve taken a liking to electronic music lately. Yesterday I also downloaded Bright Eyes’ Cassadaga and Digital Ash In A Digital Urn, of whom I’ve been a long-time fan. His style is folk; it’s usually just him with an acoustic guitar, but the latter album is actually electronic-based.

Another thing that has happened to my music taste is that I’ve been listening to movie soundtracks. Two weeks back or so I obtained the soundtrack for The Lion King. Yesterday I downloaded the soundtracks for Gladiator and The Lord Of The Rings: Return Of The King. I love the epic-ness of all the songs.

Anyway, a few blogs back I mentioned the movie Up, a movie that I really want to see. Well, tonight I found and watched the short film Partly Cloudy, which will be shown before Up in cinemas. For want of a better, less gay word, it’s cute. It’s only just over 5 minutes long, so I really recommend that you watch it below. I hope the video doesn’t get taken off YouTube because of copyright, as all the others have, so if you notice it doesn’t work, please let me know (Edit: Damn, YouTube blocked my re-uploaded version too. I’m afraid you’re going to have to find it on your own. Trust me, it’s worth it).

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Did you know that Baby Mario and Luigi were delivered by crane also? Yeah, I learnt it from playing the Yoshi’s Island series of games on Gameboy Advance. Well, here’s a really nice rendition of the Super Mario Land theme, by David Choi (whom I’ve mentioned before) on guitar and his friend Paul Dateh on violin. I love it.

Another great YouTube artist is AJ Rafael. I’m sure I’ve mentioned him before. Well, at the moment he has a Disney series going, and the second song of this twelve song series is the introduction and the theme song for Beauty And The Beast. I don’t know why, but I’m a sucker for Disney songs. Love the Mulan soundtrack, and of course The Lion King mentioned earlier. Don’t judge me. But watch the video below.

Lastly, here are some photographs (well, each image is a bunch of photographs put together) by a photographer named Martin Wilson. They speak for themselves. More images are at his website linked above. The small versions don’t do them justice at all, so click on the images for a larger view.

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Anyone recognise the “Big Yellow Taxi” lyrics, by Joni Mitchell/Counting Crows? That was a great song back in the day. Still is.

Anyway, I think that’s all for today’s massive blog. Come to think of it, I think I will go on that hiatus I mentioned in the previous blog. I realised that however I try to blog quickly, I always end up going for ages, and I can’t really afford to spend that much time on this coming up to exams. It’s been forty minutes since I began this blog, and that’s a short time for me. The next time I blog will probably be after exams, unless something really compels me to blog before then. I doubt it, though.

So, until then, good luck to everyone for their exams and don’t stress too much.

“The Feel Good Drag” is by Anberlin, from Never Take Friendship Personal.



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First off, well done to everyone who got an answer in Saturday’s game. It was fun for me to see everyone getting them. The scores were: Janet: 9, Sandy: 4, Belle: 2, Joseph: 1, Eddy: 1, Swami: 1, Leeanne: 1, James: 1 for a total of 20. Janet gets the hundred points for convincingly getting the most right, and Sandy gets the twenty for picking the blog title.

Not much has really happened since I last blogged. I’ve stayed home both Sunday and Monday of the Queen’s Birthday holiday. Happy Birthday, Queen Elizabeth II. Not really- her birthday’s in April. It should called the Queen’s Coronation holiday, since that is what we’re really celebrating (she was coronated on 2nd June 1953).

Something interesting that did happen, however, was that we got new neighbours yesterday. The house to the left of ours is now occupied by what looks and sounds like a Lebanese family. And gee, they really are Leb. One of the girls, who must be the daughter of the family (probably just over our age) likes to stand on their patio to talk to her friends on the phone while smoking. This pretty much went on for all of yesterday. Well, yesterday we decided to have lunch on our patio, and from there we could hear little snippets of her conversation. I chuckled at just how much she fit the Leb stereotype. At one point I heard her say “Oh, what about Big Johnny?” in a full-on Leb accent. Come on. “Big Johnny”? Anyway, for some reason my mum started talking about Al Qaeda and how terrorists had moved in beside us. It was funny that my mum of all people was making the jokes, however slack it was.

From here I’ll post a few art-based things I’ve found in the past few days while procrastinating from study.

The first is a really useful Flash tool for artistic inspiration of any sort. It was posted on Drawn!, which was where I found it, and it was designed as a random sketch topic generator, but it could be used for any sort of creative outlet like songwriting or storywriting. All you have to do is click the button in the middle and it gives you three words to base your sketch on. It’s great for breaking out of those creative mental blocks. Click the image below to go to the site.

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The next is a gallery called POLARIZE. In it are faux-Polaroid photographs taken by an iPhone and the POLARIZE application. Pretty neat, I’d say. See the rest of the gallery after the jump. One day I’m going to buy a real Polaroid camera (even though they’ll probably be worth a tonne). Things just look so much better in Polaroid.

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Here’s an advertisement by Rona, a paint company, using a billboard for Apple’s nano-chromatic. Genius.

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And speaking of colour, I recently saw a very cool video called “Dominoes Everywhere” that uses a bunch of different and interesting objects to continue the line, reminiscent of Rube Goldberg machines (like that Honda commercial that had all the moving parts of the car aligned for a chain reaction).See it here. Damn Vimeo can’t embed to WordPress.

Anyone heard of Despair, Inc.? They’re the ones that invented those “demotivator” posters you see so often on the net nowadays. I’m talking about those black rectangles with a picture and a slogan or smart line beneath it. Well, they’ve made a few t-shirt designs which I think are pretty clever. Here are two that I particularly liked:

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Anyone seen the album cover for The Killers’ Day & Age? Well, the guy who designed it is Paul Normansell, and he’s also used the same technique on other artworks. In my opinion, he pulls it off better in his portraits than on the album, but I know many people would beg to differ- Rolling Stone Magazine named it as the best album cover for the year. For larger images visit his website linked above. Please excuse the subject matter; I’m more interested in the colours and the technique.

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Anyway, I think that will be all for today. I’m tired. I might possibly put a hiatus on my blogging for the next few weeks until exams are over, but I’ll see how I feel. I’ll mention it in my next blog on Wednesday if I do decide to.

“Sunbeam Lights” is by Jason Reeves, from his album The Magnificent Adventures Of Heartache.



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Today was a pretty jam-packed and full on day, but a nice break from study (sort of). Woke up at 8:40am to catch a bus at 9:36 to meet Janet in Epping. From there we spent some time in the St. Vincent de Paul’s store browsing all the cool old stuff there. There are actually a lot of cool knick-knacks in there from like the 50s. While in there, I spotted a section that had some really cheap stuff, and it inspired a new project. I won’t disclose what it was, but I may in another blog once I have the idea all set. Anyway, after that we headed to the chicken shop near Intuition, where we had a Thai chicken noodle salad and the hot chips I have heard so much about. It was my first time eating here, and I was surprised by the quality of the food there. I will definitely go again. Another place I tried for the first time today was Pedro’s Pizza, where I’m sure many of you Intuition-ers have been. We shared a Chef’s Special which is pretty much like the 70’s Lot from Dominos which I really like. That was really good too; not like the ordinary pizzas from Pizza Hut or Dominos. It tasted and looked more gourmet-ish and herb-y, which was nice.
After Epping, we headed to Chatswood. Unfortunately there were no trains today, so we had to catch the 30 minute CityRail bus as opposed to the 17 minute train. There, we went to Chatswood Library and spent a few hours studying until about 5 o’clock, when we headed back to Epping to meet Mindy and Gabriel for dinner before musical. We ate at a new Italian restaurant, and shared three dishes between the four of us: pumpkin and spinach ravioli, tortellini in a creamy sauce and mushroom risotto. It was all very nice, and I think I’ll take my family there one day.
After this, my dad came to pick us up (as we were too late for buses) to go back to school for the musical. I’d have to say, I was pleasantly surprised by the performance as I wasn’t really expecting much to begin with. It started off a bit slow, but it had its funny moments (loved the “Women” song) and thanks to a few standout performances, it was actually quite enjoyable for the most part. First and foremost, Frances stole the show. Her singing was spot on, and she was easily the best performer on the stage. Quote Deva: “The whole musical should be Frances on her own”. She was that good. Other standouts were Tim, who was great as the Baron and James, who brought the comedy to the show. Other good performances were Yuzhong, who had some good scenes although his singing could’ve been better, and Nick, who sang well. Overall I thought it was not bad at all, but still not as good as ours. It was also weird since this is the first musical I’ve watched since Godspell in year 7, of which I don’t remember much. Having performed in every other musical possible, it was quite funny at first to be watching everyone on stage doing the same actions and in costume and stuff. I felt like I wanted to be up there too like every other year, but I also realised just how lame the chorus actions always are. The chorus wasn’t too bad this year as a whole, but when you watch certain individuals, it’s so bad and funny at the same time.

Today was a pretty jam-packed and full on day, but a nice break from study (sort of). Woke up at 8:40am to catch a bus at 9:36 to meet Janet in Epping. From there we spent some time in the St. Vincent de Paul’s store browsing all the cool old stuff there. There are actually a lot of cool knick-knacks in there from like the 50s. While in there, I spotted a section that had some really cheap stuff, and it inspired a new project. I won’t disclose what it was, but I may in another blog once I have the idea all set. Anyway, after that we headed to the chicken shop near Intuition, where we had a Thai chicken noodle salad and the hot chips I have heard so much about. It was my first time eating here, and I was surprised by the quality of the food there. I will definitely go again. Another place I tried for the first time today was Pedro’s Pizza, where I’m sure many of you Intuition-ers have been. We shared a Chef’s Special which is pretty much like the 70’s Lot from Dominos which I really like. That was really good too; not like the ordinary pizzas from Pizza Hut or Dominos. It tasted and looked more gourmet-ish and herb-y, which was nice.

After Epping, we headed to Chatswood. Unfortunately there were no trains today, so we had to catch the 30 minute CityRail bus as opposed to the 17 minute train. There, we went to Chatswood Library and spent a few hours studying until about 5 o’clock, when we headed back to Epping to meet Mindy and Gabriel for dinner before musical. We ate at a new Italian restaurant, and shared three dishes between the four of us: pumpkin and spinach ravioli, tortellini in a creamy sauce and mushroom risotto. It was all very nice, and I think I’ll take my family there one day.

After this, my dad came to pick us up (as we were too late for buses) to go back to school for the musical- The Merry Widow. I’d have to say, I was pleasantly surprised by the performance as I wasn’t really expecting much to begin with. It started off a bit slow, but it had its funny moments (loved the “Women” song- women women women women!) and thanks to a few standout performances, it was actually quite enjoyable for the most part. First and foremost, Frances stole the show. Her singing was spot on, and she was easily the best performer on the stage. Quote Deva: “The whole musical should be Frances on her own”. She was that good. Other standouts were Tim, who was great as the Baron and James, who brought the comedy to the show. Other good performances were Yuzhong, who had some good scenes although his singing could’ve been better, and Nick, who sang well. Overall I thought it was not bad at all, but still not as good as ours. It was also weird since this is the first musical I’ve watched since Godspell in year 7, of which I don’t remember much. Having performed in every other musical possible, it was quite funny at first to be watching everyone on stage doing the same actions and in costume and stuff. I felt like I wanted to be up there too like every other year, but I also realised just how lame the chorus actions always are. The chorus wasn’t too bad this year as a whole, but when you watch certain individuals, it’s so bad and funny at the same time. Oh, and speaking of bad performances- the grizette scene. Eesh, that wasn’t very good on the eyes, no offence. I still miss my time in rehearsals and the performances and all that last year. That was awesome, and thank you to all that were a part of it, especially the principals.

Wow, word count is at 1221 right now. I didn’t even realise I typed that much. Maybe I should end here, before I bore you all even more with this essay. (Edit: Wow, John, you’re right. WordPress decided to display double the actual word count. Weird.)

Or maybe not. Since we’re on the topic of music, here’s a game for you all to play. How it works is that I’ll choose a few songs that I like (that at least some of you should know) and post a line or two from the first 30 seconds or from the chorus. You guys have to guess the song and artist for each, and when someone gets it I’ll edit this blog and mark it down with your name. NO GOOGLE ALLOWED. Yes, i did steal this from Facebook. I’ll post the answers in a few blogs’ time. The person who gets the most correct can have a hundred points.

1. i’ve got a hunger twisting my stomach into knots
……….“The Sound Of Settling” – Death Cab For Cutie – Janet
2. it’s our problem free philosphy
……….“Hakuna Matata” – The Lion King – Joseph
3. one last glance from a taxi cab, images scar my mind
……….“Dismantle.Repair” – Anberlin – Janet
4. you’re barely waking, and i’m tangled up in you
……….“Collide” – Howie Day – Sandy
5. … and cannonball into the water, i’m gonna muster every ounce of …
……….“For You I Will” – Teddy Geiger – Eddy
6. come here girl, go ‘head be gone with it
……….“SexyBack” – Justin Timberlake – Janet
7. where did i go wrong? i lost a friend somewhere along in the bitterness
……….“How To Save A Life” – The Fray – Swami
8. look at me, i will never pass for a perfect bride
……….“Reflection” – Mulan – Leeanne
9. i’m gonna make a change for once in my life, it’s gonna feel real good …
……….“Man In The Mirror” – Michael Jackson – James
10. and so it is, just like you said it would be; life goes easy on me
……….“The Blower’s Daughter” – Damien Rice – Belle
11. i can see it in your eyes, you mean all of what you say
……….“A Day Late” – Anberlin – Janet
12. she don’t believe in shooting stars, but she believe in shoes and cars
……….“Flashing Lights” – Kanye West – Janet
13. me and all my friends, we’re all misunderstood
……….“Waiting On The World To Change” – John Mayer – Sandy
14. i know she said it’s alright, but you can make it up next time
……….“Flake” – Jack Johnson – Janet
15. once or twice was enough and it was all in vain
……….“Bleeding Love” – Leona Lewis – Sandy
16. where are we? what the hell is going on? the dust has only just …
……….“Hide And Seek” – Imogen Heap – Janet
17. you only stay with me in the morning, you only hold me when i sleep
……….“You Give Me Something” – James Morrison – Janet
18. everybody look right, everywhere you look i’m standing in the spotlight
……….“I Just Can’t Wait To Be King” – The Lion King – Sandy
19. you will never stop it now, you’ll never stop it now
……….“RoboCop” – Kanye West – Janet
20. go ahead as you waste your days with thinking, when you fall …
……….“Move Along” – The All-American Rejects – Belle

An extra twenty points if you can give me the artist and album for this blog’s title. No searches allowed!